Subject	You're failing to see the concepts at work here.
Posted by	Marshall on March 20, 2003 at 3:40 PM
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In Reply To	You're Comparing Apples to Bicycles. try again. posted by niXit on March 20, 2003 at 03:33 PM
Message	This seems easy to me, I don't know what you can't see the light, I thought you were smarter than that. If it was possible for the electrolysis of water to contribute ANY net power to the overall system, it would therefore be possible to make an engine that runs solely off water. But in reality, it takes MORE ENERGY to electrolyze water than the resultant hydrogen and oxygen can contribute to the system. In other words, for every molecule of water that you electrolyze, you are losing a slight amount of energy on the process. You are not gaining any energy by electrolyzing water. It doesn't matter if water is a contributing fuel, or if it's the sole fuel. Water is not a fuel, period.
Follow Ups	For those of you complaining about gas prices - s3trios 09:46:50 03/20/03 I have to respond... - niXit 09:55:29 03/20/03 Yea I agree - s3trios 09:59:13 03/20/03 Don't be surprised!! - Todd@Z1 Motorsports 13:03:52 03/20/03 Re: Don't be surprised!! - Marshall 14:34:09 03/20/03 not using water as a primary fuel. Apples to Bicycles. (n/m) - niXit 15:35:43 03/20/03 not a primary fuel, not a secondary fuel, not a fuel at all. (n/m) - Marshall 16:17:56 03/20/03 this application is certainly *not* against laws of physics! - Technomancer 16:32:38 03/20/03 could you please elaborate? - Marshall 16:42:57 03/20/03 my responses are at the bottom of this thread (n/m) - Technomancer 18:27:40 03/20/03 Or most that confine themselves to the proposition>> - Todd@Z1 Motorsports 17:19:34 03/20/03 I don't follow that line of thought. - Marshall 17:32:00 03/20/03 day off huh? (n/m) - Todd@Z1 Motorsports 11:00:06 03/20/03 if you were only 1/3rd as cool as you me, you'd be... - niXit 11:05:19 03/20/03 I have a dream. (n/m) - Todd@Z1 Motorsports 11:30:27 03/20/03 I have one too - READ THIS!!! :) - Scotts94z32 14:25:47 03/20/03 You had that day off while Nick worked huh?? - Todd@Z1 Motorsports 17:30:08 03/20/03 Hey Nixit - Marshall 14:07:51 03/20/03 That won't work, it's a gimmick. - Marshall 10:51:38 03/20/03 is there a difference when the alternator is charging? - niXit 10:55:56 03/20/03 Yes there is - Marshall 11:17:21 03/20/03 ps, there is PLENTY more info that supports it works SOME. - niXit 11:10:36 03/20/03 no, you'd lose some energy. It's an energy CONSUMING process - Marshall 11:29:04 03/20/03 LOL. You didn't actually READ the whole thing did you? (n/m) - ScubaSteve 11:13:27 03/20/03 Yes I did, why? (n/m) - Marshall 11:30:33 03/20/03 Do you have any friends? What's with the name calling - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:08:55 03/20/03 Please do not attempt to derail this thread. - Marshall 14:30:27 03/20/03 quit your name calling and personal judgement remarks (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:08:46 03/20/03 All I can say is Apples to Bicycles. - niXit 15:36:26 03/20/03 All I can say is "physics". - Marshall 15:52:00 03/20/03 please see my comments at the bottom of this thread (n/m) - Technomancer 18:19:55 03/20/03 By the way - Marshall 15:18:13 03/20/03 " This guy seems like yet another clueless nut that " - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:11:03 03/20/03 Well yes, that's true. - Marshall 15:20:07 03/20/03 Apple to Bicycles, read the webpage, thanks. - niXit 15:35:13 03/20/03 Read some basic physics books, thanks. - Marshall 15:43:46 03/20/03 I do know that Honda has produced the FCX, and LA has some - TtrboStarZ 11:16:02 03/20/03 The real solution is to buy a beater, like a Honda CRX HX >> - KaZ (jTTfz) VaBch 11:26:55 03/20/03 I had an HX w/ 40+mpg, the sticker 'claimed' 52mpg (n/m) - Janders 13:21:54 03/20/03 The wife's turbo diesel bug gets 46mpg average... - LordZ 14:21:20 03/20/03 I'll try to explain this in simple terms with cheesy pics - Marshall 12:35:21 03/20/03 lol, loved the pics! (n/m) - LordZ 14:23:05 03/20/03 Ahh, I think I can put this to rest. - Marshall 14:28:50 03/20/03 You're Comparing Apples to Bicycles. try again. - niXit 15:33:31 03/20/03 not mph, MPG, sorry. 5-15. documented. (n/m) - niXit 15:40:07 03/20/03 You're failing to see the concepts at work here. - Marshall 15:40:44 03/20/03 using electricity. not gas, not water. - niXit 15:47:07 03/20/03 "electricity is basically free"- This is wrong. Its NOT free - Marshall 15:59:13 03/20/03 And you're also wrong about the reason the rpms drop. - Marshall 16:10:40 03/20/03 you are mistaken - Technomancer 16:35:53 03/20/03 I don't think so... - Marshall 16:47:05 03/20/03 OK here - Technomancer 18:18:41 03/20/03 I do not buy their reasoning. - Marshall 20:49:38 03/20/03 sigh. thanks for the post. more for marshall>> - niXit 08:10:51 03/21/03 Hmmm - Marshall 12:55:34 03/21/03
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